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    Gunbound Formula!!!!!!

    ok, if u master this, 98% u wont miss, but u gota learn it good. ( dont think works for boomer )

    VERY HELPFULL, but the problem is, its very long.

    but trust me. u GOTA read it, now, i can beet any1 so easily.

    credits 2 whoever made it.


    here it goes :


    The three basic rules you can memorize to get you started:
    1. Power is ALWAYS 2.4 bars.
    2. Angle 60 hits 1 screen away.
    3. Angle 75 hits half a screen away.
    Measuring with the screen: hold right click and drag the screen so that you're at the edge. Then judge what angle you want to use (it's easiest to use angle 75 as a landmark, then judge how far away the enemy is from 75. If the enemy is nearly 1 screen away, use 1 screen = angle 60 as a landmark).
    The distance from your 'all/team' button to your half power mark = angle 80 If you cannot put the all button under you because the enemy is far to the right, put the 3rd power mark under you. From the third power mark to the right edge of the screen is also about angle 80.
    From the all/team button to (in score) the area between the first 'team lives remaining' button and the red number showing how many lives there are = angle 70 explanation: In score it has two buttons bottom right, "b life remaining" and "a life remaining". To the right of these buttons are red numbers showing how many lives you have left. Just between the button and number of lives is the angle 70 mark. In solo or tag, it's from the all button to the left edge of the yellow stripey area next to the "F7" button
    left edge of screen to right edge of screen = angle 60

    -left edge of screen to middle of screen = angle 75 ... to spot a perfect 75, put yourself at the left edge of the screen so that u are halfway off the screen. Look directly under the middle of the wind indicator at the top of the screen... that is where an angle 75 shot will land in 0 wind.
    -each 'bar' on your power meter is ~4 angles. So let's say you place yourself above the "all" button. The enemy is 1 bar past your half power (2 bar) mark.
    All to half power = angle 80
    1 bar beyond = lower 4 angles
    so enemy is at angle 76... almost half a screen away.
    -You can't use angles lower than 60... the shot only has enough power to travel 1 screen. In fact, trying to fire angle 60 with 2.4 bars might land a little bit short, and you may want to try 2.5 bars for angle 60 shots. If you ever do a calculation that tells you to lose an angle lower than 60, your shot will miss.

    -Also, angle 32~35 will also go 1 screen at 2.4 power. So 2.4 power goes 1 screen for almost ANY angle lower than 60 I think.

    ADJUSTING FOR WIND:

    From my experience, adjusting for wind with any bot at any fixed power is nearly the same. Using the adjustments I'd use for high angling with cake has served me well for using the armor 2.4 bar method.
    Wind adjustment works like this:
    -Figure out the angle you need in 0 wind.
    -If wind is up or towards the opponent or both, raise angle to compensate. If wind is against you or down, lower the angle to compensate. Remeber that if you are using a maximum power of 2.4 bars, you cannot reach certain distances when wind is against you... for example if you try to hit someone at angle 70 with 20 wind against you, you will fall short always. So in moderate or strong wind blowing against you, I recommend you abandon using the 2.4 bar formula. It's still ok when wind is blowing towards the enemy.
    -For calculating wind adjustments, look at the wind power, round down to the nearest even number (i.e. 25 wind is really 24 wind)... then divide wind power by a certain number. The number you use is based on wind direction. Here's a chart showing what number to divide by for almost any given wind direction:

    Wind Chart

    Other aiming methods:

    At angle 35, you can use 2.4 bars for 1 screen and about 1.7 for half a screen. One bar of power travels about 7 distance units (15 distance units is half a a screen, so it's a bit less than 1/4th of a screen). That fact doens't seem that useful at first, because the shot is so close it's easy to make just using feel alone. However I use this bit of knowledge to aim my close range shot 2's very precisely... so that the shot is diving into the ground just as it hits the enemy's feet. This ensures that I get the fullest possible damage from my shot 2.

    3 bar formula:
    This involves shooting with nearly 3 bars of power to aim your shots. You actually use 3 different levels of power:

    Inside half a screen (not recommended): 2.8 bars
    From half screen to 1 screen: 2.95 bars
    Past 1 screen (1.5 screen max: 3.05 bars
    The advantage to using this is that with so much power, you can make calculated shots up to 1.5 screens away. The disadvantage is that 3 bar shots, like full power shots, have a lot of distance between angles and you may need to adjust your power level to hit an enemy sitting between 2 different angles. You will also need to watch wind carefully because the shot is spending a lot of time in the air, and the wind effect may be greater than it would for a 2.4 bar shot.

    3.1 bar shots are suitable for:
    *Enemies beyond 1 screen distance, but not as far as 2 screens away.
    *Situations where the wind force holds your shot back and makes it impossible to get the shot to travel 1 screen distance using just 2.4 bars power.
    *Situations where you want to stay as close to the front of a slope as possible (and therefore don't want to move backwards to get a lower true angle). If you're in a situation where you're forced to use a very high angle and you need a lower angle for the 2.4 method, you can use 3 bars instead and keep your high angle.

    3.1 bar shots are NOT suitable for:
    *Close range shots inside half a screen.
    *Any situation where 2.4 bars could easily hit (because 3 bars has a greater chance of missing slightly because the gap between 2 angles is larger).
    *Shots beyond 1.5 screen (a flat angle or full power high angles are needed).

    3.1 landmarks:

    1/2 screen = angle 80
    1 screen = angle 70
    1.5 screens = angle 60

    As with 2.4, you are dividing your target area into 30 parts... 10 parts per half screen. That means 5 parts per 1/4 screen. If it helps, 7 angles distance using the 2.4 method is about 5 angles using the 3.1 bar method.

    ARMOR STRATEGY -

    Basic: Start off the game with a single shot 1, then pound away with shot 2 until the enemy has about 40% of their life left. Finish them off with a dual shot 2. Always attack the closest, easiest enemy, and try to stick to the easier to use low/flat angles (but remember, always use true angle... the middle green portion of your aiming slice).

    Advanced: Learn to use fixed power shooting so that you can hit anything on the screen with confidence. When you can do that, you can choose targets based on which enemy it would be best to kill, not on which enemy is easiest to hit. Open the round with your SS, since your shot 1 delay is sort of poor and you're probably going to give up two turns in a row at some point anyway. Later finish the enemy with a dual+ followed by a dual.

    Playing delay: If you treat your matchup with a certain enemy as a 1v1, then you have to watch your delay carefully to beat a strong player who has an easy shot on you. Most 1v1 matchups can end after 3 or 4 turns. Here's how you should play most matchups:

    You go first -
    1. Open with SS or dual+, since even opening with shot 1 will probably cause you to lose two turns vs someone else with a faster shot 1.
    2. Next fire shot 2. If everything has hit so far, and hit solidly, the enemy should have less than half their life. If you have enough delay advantage (i.e. the enemy shows maybe +300 delay on the turn list) use a dual+.
    3. If the enemy hasn't killed you yet, fire a dual for your last shot and they should drop dead, unless you've been missing or half-hitting.

    They go first -
    1. If they opened with a dual and took a very very long time lining up their shot and aiming, you can dual back quickly and beat their delay, barely. Vs someone with naturally low delay like boomer, this is hard. Vs another armor or a nak, it's much easier.
    2. If they opened with a fast dual, respond with a dual+ (shot 1 first) and you can beat their delay and get another turn. If dual+ isn't available, then use your SS.
    3. If they opened up with an SS or dual+, fire shot 2 first to beat their delay, then use a dual+ if it's available as your next shot. You should be able to get three hits on them without losing too much delay to them.
    4. If they opened with a shot 2, respond with a shot 1 to beat their delay followed by another shot 1. You can also safely respond with dual, dual+, or your SS. You won't beat their delay, but your delay should be low enough that they cannot get two turns in a row on you afterwards.
    5. If they opened with a shot 1, respond with a dual, or to be conservative a dual+/ss. You won't be able to shot 1 back and beat their delay unless the enemy is someone with high delay (or someone who takes a long time to aim). If you CAN fire a fast shot 1 to beat their delay, then make sure your second shot is a shot 1 also... otherwise you give up so much delay that they will get two turns in a row on you later on.

    Different strategies for different modes:
    SOLO MODE: Remember that once you die, that's it... no more shots for you. You want to contribute as much useful damage as possible before you die. You also have to be aware of the fact that pro solo players look for opportunities to doubleteam/gangbang/rape someone. If that someone is probably going to be you, you should dual on your first shot and don't worry about the huge delay (because you're going to die anyway, and firing a dinky shot 1 before you die sucks). Remember, this is only a solo strategy, generally firing a dual your first turn is a bad idea. The delay from that is so high many players can dual you back and beat your delay, or else get three shots in a row by using fast shot 1's.

    SCORE: If you can see you're going to get gangbanged (as in solo mode) you should consider dualling your first turn so you do something good before you die. If you are pretty sure you will be left alone or only 1 enemy will try to kill you, then play delay and treat the matchup as a 1v1 between you and your target. Remember, help is available if your teammates are pro enough. If you need just 1 added hit to be able to kill your enemy, don't be afraid to use teamtalk and ask for their help. Otherwise, if you have things under control you shouldn't ask. Also, if you are really owning your enemy and have a large lead in life on them, you might look for situations where you can help your teammates (or else ask them if they want help). Also... sometimes in a score game, suicide is preferable to letting the enemy get the kill because by suiciding you can choose a drop location right away and respawn faster. If you're definitely going to die in the next turn or two, then suiciding isn't a bad plan. Don't do it automatically every time though. Sometimes it's more helpful to force the enemy to use up a turn finishing you off, which takes some heat off of your teammates.
    One other cute score trick: On maps with thin land, fire a shot 1 where you can see the enemy will land. They'll drop into the pit and with any luck you can actually bunge them on your next turn. You can also make a pit straight through the bottom of the ground. If the enemy drops through that pit, they don't lose a life, but they must waste 4 more turns before they can come back.

    TAG: Just remember to F7 when your life gets low, around 40% or so. A good tag partner for armor is turtle since both can fire using the same 2.4 bar fixed power aiming system. Turtle also has naturally high defense like armor, and you'll find that having the two toughest mobiles as tag partners means you live longer than most other bots.

    Other armor stuff:

    -For most shots, especially on a flat map like metamine, it is best to use a low, flat angle like 35. Both parts of your shot 2 can hit easily, and you can judge power by feel pretty easily. The shot 2 will do best damage if it hits right at the enemy's feet. It's hard to get that kind of hit by using higher angles.

    -From many positions, using angle 35 makes no sense, but trying to make the shot using fixed power method isn't wise either (because it would mean using your weak angle or the shot is so close it makes no sense to high angle it). For these situations, I like to use angle 60. It is good to learn at least 1 highish fixed angle for armor so that you can make good, fast shots using feel alone when there's no time or reason to calculate.

    -When you miss a shot, use your power meter to guide how many angles to change... 1 bar on your power meter is ~4 angles, so it is easy to judge.

    -Sometimes a target is between angles, like standing on a pixel. You can use 2.3 or 2.5 power to fix this if a shot is a very near miss.

    -Full power high angling: I don't recommend this with armor at all, it's so much harder to aim these than it is to aim a nice flat shot, and within 1 screen you don't need full power shots, 2.4 bars will do. If you want to high angle anyway, or are forced to because of a bad position, Angle 79 goes a hair over 1 screen. So you can also use 84 not-quite-full to hit half a screen away.

    -Don't get fooled into thinking you need to adjust power/angle when you switch to a different shot. Shot 1, Shot 2, and the SS all have the same weight even though shot 1 travels quickly through the air and 'looks' lighter.

    -If you want to use the SS, angle 35 2.4 (full screen) does NOT open up in time. Angle 60 full screen does. So if you plan to use a flat angle SS, the enemy must be really far away, like 1.5 screens.

    -If you want to get a sure shot on someone and can shotgun them... do it. But keep in mind that armor's shot bunges the enemy quite a bit, so if you try a dual shotgun the enemy will often drop down a cm or so and make your second shot miss. Aim low when shotgunning duals to prevent this.

    -Dual shot 1 isn't very strong, but it bunges a lot and is a good way to try to drop the enemy through some thin land when a single shot 1 probably won't be enough.

    -Follow general gunbound strategy and play smart. Don't use shot 2 if shot 1 is enough. Don't high angle when fixed power is enough. Don't use more than you need to for a kill. Don't toss out a dual when you're not very sure on the hit. Don't aim for enemies who are very close to teammates. Don't use a fancy shot when a shotgun will do. You get the picture.

    -Packing items: I use two duals and a dual+. Teleport used to be important to me, but I find the better I get the less I need to use it. If you want to keep a teleport in your pack, use dual, dual+, teleport. Dual+ is too good not to use, and dual is important for finishing off enemies with more than 300ish hp.

    -Practicing: The perfect practice settings are 1v1, jewel mode, death 40, SSdeath, solo/score, no items except maybe wind change. You have multiple targets to aim at in jewel mode and that makes it great for practicing the 2.4 shooting method. Metamine is a good map for practice because it's large enough and has frequent wind changes so you can learn how to adjust for various wind changes. It also is easy to get angle on that map. Miramo town is also good because it's a large map and you can practice 3.1 bar shots or high angles.

    Ok, that's it, I hope this is helpful.

    lol, its realy realy realy realy long.
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    lol.. this is so long im gonna print it and read it when i have nothing to do... even though i have nothing to do now... i just dont want to read anything bigger than hand... ill see if i can abridge it

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    ?? where u found this bug? i dont understand

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    what bug? o.O
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    golden loko, its not a bug, it teaches u become pro, it realy works.
    lol if u dun have enough time too read it, just read the first part, for basics, then read the wind handling, these r basics, the rest are realy good stratagys, make u win in a sec.

    and WAT bug u talking about?
    where is it
    ???????
    and wat is it?
    WTF???
    lol?
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    duh... its too hard to memorize with this one... too long enough to remember but good post..
    but its only for armour isn't it? but calculating power , wind is still the same for the other mobile...
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    yes, ur right, but the armor strategy is just an extra, anyhows, im trying to change this and make it smaller, then, ill get every single mobile strategy ( whitch i have on my comp ) and ill add them all together, and make a big post, i could have done it now but its too long, im trying to break it down, and get the main parts in, when im done ill post it.
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    Where is the wind chart? All I see is "Wind Chart" then "Other Aiming Methods:"

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    the stuff above it is the wind chart, and under it too
    well the other aiming methods r when wind changes i guess.
    lol if u read it wile concentrating, ull understand everything.
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    ROFL you dont even give credit to the guy that made this you just copyed and pasted creedo made this

    EDIT:this is from the ammor guide he downloaded the guide from
    gb101 or creedos website
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    the easy way to calculate shots is the landmarks between you and your enemy...
    try using your hands

    BTW : creedo's chart are the one of the verry best chart's that i have seen in the net!
    calculating in wind is hard while in landmarks is easy... sometimes it miss
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTTDEADTTT
    the stuff above it is the wind chart, and under it too
    well the other aiming methods r when wind changes i guess.
    lol if u read it wile concentrating, ull understand everything.

    Oh. I thought you meant you had specific values to divide wind power, based on wind angle, to get your angle change. my mistake :o

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    *OR* use an aimbot, lol No, but seriously, nice thx for posting
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    no problem man
    and i didnt giv credits to him cause i thought no 1 would find him.

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